Is looked down on as self-taught

How to politely insist on being broadcast

That's pretty long. I'm trying to be thorough but I hope it's not too long.

I am currently employed by a very large American company. I generally had a good attitude during my tenure here, largely because they gave me a start in my career (I don't have a college degree and I'm self-taught, and they trusted me enough to get started). However, my company is undergoing a massive reorganization and the work for the team I have happily worked on for years is being physically relocated. Due to the circumstances of my life, I wasn't ready to move.

In order not to be assigned randomly, I jumped early on to another team with a manager I had previously worked for. He assured me that his team wasn't moving as part of the reorg and that he had quite an interesting job for me (not his team's usual work) that intrigued me. Shortly after the team change, he realized that both his team's work and himself were in motion. So the work he had planned for me was no longer an option as it would likely take at least 9 months. For the past few months I've been working on revising the code base for a test automation team. Shortly after it was discovered that this new team had also moved and my project would not exist, another manager (whom I will call Bob), who was previously my co-worker, showed an interest in me joining his team as the reorganization was realized. I wanted to work there too as the work was relevant and challenging and we (thought we) spoke to the people necessary to make it happen.

Partly due to the fact that I was on a test automation team at the time the Reorg movement was triggered, and partly due to negligence (not mine) or politics, I was blindly reassigned to another test automation team. I was shocked by the aforementioned agreement with Bob; It seemed to me that if a manager wanted someone and that employee wanted to work for that manager too, this would be a match he would accept because it was one less job to train and everyone would be happy. But no.

I have scheduled a meeting with my future manager, and in that meeting he raised concerns that he had been deceived. He interpreted an email recommending my general ability as an expression of my expertise in test automation (which I had been doing for less than 2 months to this point). He had never heard of such an arrangement with Bob either. I tried to express that I didn't feel like I was a good fit without being offensive. A few days later, Bob sent him an email expressing concern that I might "look for other options" if the job didn't go well and that they might be able to keep talking. (He did this with my permission). Abstract, it has been brushed off with a comment like "Time will tell if it's a bad fit."

I specifically looked at the work of my assigned future team and it's shockingly bad. I don't feel like working in this team because I want to keep growing and challenge myself. So it doesn't suit me to "fix your problems". I have already conducted several final interviews with the possibility of several offers (outside of my current company).

How can I formulate my request to my future manager that the work of his team is unacceptable to me, that I do not have the desire to be the mechanic for his team and that I feel abused and will leave the company if I do not allowed to go? to Bob's team? However, if he doesn't choose to listen, I don't want to burn my bridges here - I may want to come back in the future. This is not his fault (necessarily), but he is the one who has the power to make me move.


Does the future manager have authority to assign you to Bob's team? Aside from burning bridges, what do you hope to accomplish by writing / speaking to him?


There is a term of 1 year. Management approval is required within this period. So he could allow me to move to another team, provided the manager there wants me (which they do). Apart from that, he was also a member of the board of directors, which carried out the tasks.


I would hope to convince him that I can join Bob's team, as I think it would be best for me and the company: my skills would be better used and I would advance my career. Otherwise, I have no plans to stay. However, if it does result in me leaving, I would prefer to leave the door open to return. I will try to make these things clearer on the main question.

Simon B.

You risk high maintenance costs. I don't expect to tell my employer which programs I want to work on. Instead, management does the staffing forecast and I am assigned to the project that needs more staff.

Sometimes I have a fun program. Sometimes it isn't. That's only part of being an employee in a large organization.

Julia Hayward

And a reorganization is a particularly bad time to achieve a high maintenance effort. Management will have some level of attrition incorporated into the restructuring plan and will not ask you to stay, regardless of what Bob says. And being seen as someone who fails when they don't get the project they wanted will inevitably be an obstacle to returning.


While this may be seen by some, the requirement to adhere to previous (verbal?) Agreements should not be considered "high maintenance". We all have only one life and one career, and while non-exciting work is inevitably part of any job, the desire to minimize it - if this has already been discussed and arranged - should not be something to be looked down upon.


There are reasons (which I don't think are particularly relevant to the question, so I left them out) that go beyond the boring work. As mentioned earlier, I don't have a college degree and while most places overlook this with 6 years of experience, not all will. And test automation (or test roles and teams in general) is stereotypically viewed as the place to send people who can't be real developers. This may not be exact, but it is often the bias. If I've been on a test automation team for (at least) a year, it would potentially really hurt my credibility.