Are professional athletes overpaid and overrated

- Thu May 31, 2012 10:02 AM # 1110856
In football, the players get such high sums in the millions that one can only wonder. It's about 4, 5 and more million, what they take. I think that's completely overrated in sports. Everyone should have their livelihood, but what is being traded for millions of dollars is crazy. Then players are also "bought off". I think that's exaggerated when you consider that they are just chasing the ball.
Of course, a lot of money is also raised through advertising, etc., but one should also pay attention to the relationships. The little man or player in the little league only dream of it. That had to be said.

Do you also think the players are overpaid?
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- Thu May 31, 2012 13:00 # 1110882
AndiK. wrote:In football, the players get such high sums in the millions that one can only wonder. It's about 4, 5 and more millions, what they take. I think that's completely overrated in sports. Everyone should have their livelihood, but what is being traded for millions of dollars is crazy. Then players are also "bought off". I think that's exaggerated when you consider that they are just chasing the ball.
Of course, a lot of money is also raised through advertising, etc., but one should also pay attention to the relationships. The little man or player in the little league only dreams of it. That had to be said.

Do you also think the players are overpaid?
Is the title paired with the post a question or a statement?

Why do you think so When someone "like that" opens a thread, it is always nice if an opinion is justified so that one can save arguments that would otherwise be undermined anyway.

Unfortunately I haven't seen Anne Will now. My opinion: no.
For me, a worker is worth what an employer is willing to pay him. This is wage determination, as it is common in capitalism.
If there is an offer that is hopelessly overrun, then costs and wages grow disproportionately to the rest of the economy. It's the same in other industries.
If the fans are still willing to pay the ticket prices, order TV subscriptions and buy items about the club and players, then I'm not judging them. Everyone can do with what they have earned and promote whoever they want.
That is certainly not appropriate, but in recent years I have also been very frustrated about how often the pot of gold is spat on, into which we all pay heavily.
Bottom line. Whether as a banker, lawyer, singer or athlete. If someone waves me with a big check, I'm definitely not going to say no, so I want other people to get it too.

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- Thu May 31, 2012 3:09 PM # 1110911
Take a look at the sums of money in golf: arrow: No, footballers are not overpaid!
But in the end, it doesn't even matter!

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- Thu May 31, 2012 3:25 PM # 1110917
Footballers aren't overpaid. The industry just gives away those amounts, and, yes ... supply and demand, right? Tickets for a Bundesliga game are affordable for almost everyone, the German stadiums are always well filled. The TV stations are fighting over TV rights because they too earn a chunk of money from them. Large corporations are trying to advertise with football (jerseys, etc.). In short: football is booming, everyone who invests money in football wins, just like corporations and TV broadcasters. So why shouldn't the players benefit from it too?

A simple, very simplified example: If the state were debt-free and had 200 million euros left over in taxes every year, it would eventually increase the salaries of its civil servants, but that is not the case. Yes with football, hence the sums of money.

Enclosed I feel like opening a discussion against the grain and popping an exclamation point directly into the thread title.

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- Thu May 31, 2012 3:26 PM # 1110918
I didn't see Anne wants either, but I also believe that footballers are overpaid. Well the problem is just people (like me ) watch the Bundesliga every Saturday evening and sometimes even go to the stadium. A soccer game between 2 opponents is actually only used for entertainment for which I pay money. Because of the whole media situation, football is now more emotive and when you talk about your favorite club, most of the time you talk about "we". Football is too important nowadays, that is how salaries come together.
Nevertheless, one should make sure that someone who> only runs after a ball A doctor in a hospital who saves lives or a firefighter who does the same doesn't even earn 100 times as much. Even if they are paid well, of course, that's not the case. You can also say the doctor has a high school diploma and studied for 6 years, a footballer doesn't even need a school leaving certificate .... But the doctor could have gone to a football club and then, with a lot of luck, turned professional.
In the end, I sit in front of the TV every evening during the European Championship and watch all the games, while I see the advertising from ARD / ZDF and the sponsors in the stadiums and on the jerseys. If I were to buy a Mercedes (for which I am too young and have no money) then I would in turn support the players of the German national team, as it were, as Mercedes is an official partner of the DFB.
It's just about the money.

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- Thu May 31, 2012 4:10 PM # 1110935
I don't think so, with us in the regional class I didn't get a tired cent. mess!!!

Manchester United could win 50 titles, but they will always be the Rolling Stones of football. Good, but not quite that Band from Liverpool ...

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- Thu May 31, 2012 4:41 PM # 1110947
Completely new insight for me, thank you very much.

Incidentally, I can't agree with the thread title, because if you look at what the players are doing, then in a way it is already appropriate.
After all, they not only serve as a figurehead and identification figure, they also have to be ready for almost 24 hours and give a lot of their lives for football.
Not to mention the huge sums of money that the club collects and earns with the help of the players.

It's the players who make up the heart of the club ... no club without players.
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- Thu May 31, 2012 6:43 pm # 1111020
Might fit in here very well ...
sport1 wrote:According to a study by the auditing company "Deloitte", the German upper house improved its operating result by 33 million euros (24 percent) to 171 million in the 2010/11 season, making it the most profitable league ahead of the Premier League (75 million euros) for the third time in a row Profit).

The total turnover of European football in the 2010/11 season rose by four percent to a record of 16.9 billion euros. The European "Big Five" - ​​Premier League, Bundesliga, Primera Division, Serie A and Ligue 1 - generated over half (51 percent) of total sales with EUR 8.6 billion.

The Premier League achieved the greatest growth, reaching 2.5 billion. The Bundesliga maintained its place as the second league with the highest turnover - it recorded a turnover increase of five percent to 1.746 billion euros. [...]
According to the "Annual Review of Football Finance" by "Deloitte", the Bundesliga and Premier League were again the only leagues in the "Big Five" to achieve operating profits in the 2010/11 season. With over 800 million euros, the Bundesliga posted by far the highest commercial revenues within the "Big Five" - ​​around 216 million more than the Premier League.
So where should the money go? In my opinion, the proportion of those who are responsible for this turnover, among other things, is quite appropriate.

What I find more frightening than the "horrific" salaries of the footballers (but not all, the rest of them have to start almost from scratch after 20 years of sports careers) are the debts of the many top clubs. I think the big bubble will burst at some point.

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- Thu May 31, 2012 7:23 PM # 1111035
acid_junky wrote: So where should the money go?
what kind of stupid question is that? : roll: down with the ticket and jersey prices!

Manchester United could win 50 titles, but they will always be the Rolling Stones of football. Good, but not quite that Band from Liverpool ...

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- Thu May 31, 2012 8:18 PM # 1111049
Good question - already asked 1000 times - already answered 1000 times -
but nothing changes anyway

It's like with Ackermann

Oh so the answer: Yes, you are overpaid

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- Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:51 am # 1111147
Schumacher earned 70mio per year at his peak at Ferrari (advertising deals included)
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- Sa Jun 02, 2012 09:17 # 1111355
As long as the clubs generate the money for these salaries themselves, I let them pay the professionals as much as they want.
This is largely the case in Germany, although individual associations have already been supported with taxpayers' money.
What is going on in Italy and Spain is indignant. Spain is practically broke itself, but the clubs still get a billion tax debt waived.
That will not do! Then they just have to pay (among other things) less salaries and replacements.

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- Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:46 AM # 1111380
Footballers are not overpaid per se.
Which footballers are we talking about? You can't lump them all together.
And what relation are we talking about? Do we compare them with other top athletes (Formula 1 was mentioned) or with top managers?
Or do we compare them to kindergarten teachers and nurses? In the comparison, footballers are clearly overpaid.

So there is no answer to this question that fits.
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- Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:25 PM # 1111508
It's the top athletes, soccer players in the Bundesliga. But that's also the case in Formula 1. Sure, you can say: when the clubs earn so much, the footballers are happy to accept it. Nevertheless, these are values, beyond good and bad.
If they were to earn 100,000 euros a year, I would also say "Wow". The money could also be made available to the promotion of young talent, the modernization of stadiums and good causes in general, instead of blowing everything into the ass of the player. You have to keep the relations. I would rather increase the salary of the sports ground gardener who mows the lawn.
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- Sat Jun 02, 2012 17:47 # 1111518
I don't want to destroy your idealistic ideas, but that's just not how it works in a globalized market economy.
Of course, you could say: € 3,000 a month is enough if you consider that they actually only pursue their hobby.
But if you want to see the best footballers in Germany / Europe (and the majority of fans just want that), then these salaries have to be paid.
Because some sheik will certainly pay them and then all good footballers will end up somewhere in Timbuktu and only barley will play in the Bundesliga.

As I said: I think that's uncritical as long as the clubs generate the money independently. Because with this money, like any other company, they can do what they want.

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- Mon Jun 04, 2012 00:24 # 1112011
Provided that there is a healthy relationship between income and expenditure: No!
I think the discussion is pointless anyway, in various other sports you pay a lot more in some cases.

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- Mon Jun 04, 2012 09:24 AM # 1112025
TheOnly1 wrote:..
As I said: I think that's uncritical as long as the clubs generate the money independently. Because with this money, like any other company, they can do what they want.
Even if the clubs do not generate it themselves, a footballer is not automatically overpaid. The origin of the money does not play a role in the payment. Loan financing is not uncommon.
As I learned at school, the market consists of supply and demand. There aren't that many world-class players. So you auction your "work performance" to the highest bidder. There is nothing wrong with that.
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- Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:03 AM # 1112028
That's true.
My testimony also related primarily to state aid. Privately financed loans are of course not a problem.