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Re: Question about oils and acne bacteria

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No, at least that's not how I said it. My position is always factual, one that tries to collect facts, listen, use information, sift it through, structure it, evaluate it - and draw a thesis from it. My view is very scientific, and this also means always seeing the respective point of view as one that is valid until there are more convincing facts and findings. I am always very critical. Dogmatism is alien to me, but I expect good arguments from my interlocutors.
I find your attitude laudable. Unfortunately, I cannot provide good arguments in this area, only as already written in the practical area (even if these are still limited), as well as the experiences of others.
My first question for some of your statements is therefore: Where do the theses come from, in what context were they postulated? This concerns z. B. also that indigenous peoples have a different skin pH value. In order to be able to evaluate and interpret such a statement, I need the original source.
I was just looking for it myself. It's a bit embarrassing now, but unfortunately I can't find it anymore. This was related to the baby's pH and that we naturally saw a higher one. I found this by chance through my internet forays. If I should find this again, I will hand it in later. So please don't think that I made this up, it's just been a while since I've read this.
Research can vary in quality. :-)
You can be mean person ;-) No, it was also about experience reports in particular. Which couldn't be more different.
This is where the fact that we have had a completely different hygiene culture since the 1970s comes into play. When I was a kid (in the 60s) I bathed once a week. Today it is not uncommon for people to shower twice a day. The shower fuss has to smell good, lather up and be beautifully colored - and the trade fulfills it. (By the way, I don't think much of Syndets, the acidic pH value doesn't help either.) You can also read this preference for foam, color and fragrance among DIY enthusiasts.
So I'm also a foam fetishist, but don't start crying when a salty soap just doesn't want to foam properly ^^. Color is not that important to me, unless you want to show off with nice swirls in a soap. My parents had to get their bath water from the river, it was still hard work to wash and also to heat the water. As a child I knew that the three of us used the same bath water, first me, then mom and then dad, or dad and then mom. This was also due to the frugality.
Probably because these people have forgotten how to see pure water as a cleaning agent. Anyone who handles surfactants will notice an improvement when switching to hand-made soaps. You are the lesser of two evils. In addition, there is the irritation impulse described, which is triggered by a basic pH value and which can actually initially lead to relief. THEN, however, it is time to reduce surfactants and rely more on water (and afterwards on good oils as care).
Man you are good Here comes the BUT for me anyway! That sounds too easy for people with severe skin diseases. Although I have to say that my sister-in-law also had severe skin problems on her face and was able to more or less remedy this with pure water in the end. It's not completely gone, there are good and bad times that you can see, but otherwise, this definitely speaks for your statement. Don't be angry with me if I squirm so that it would be so easy.
Because people don't see the connections. Silicone creams make a great, plump, moist, smooth skin visible and noticeable. Explain to millions of women in the world why their choice is still a shitty choice. They will lynch you. ;-) Before I get misunderstood: Hand-boiled soaps are not the choice of sweat, they are the better alternative to Syndets - and the worse alternative to water, where this would be sufficient. And let's be honest: there is often enough water. It's also good for the environment.
I think we agree that silicone and Co. are not good. :-) Water is always the better choice. But when one spreads the bad news: Wash yourselves with water and your suffering will fall away, don't you think that many have already tried and failed? With water you cannot simply eliminate certain bacteria, but perhaps only reduce the number by flushing them away.
You have a mixture of fatty substances on your skin, mono-, diesters, unsaponified, free fatty acids. They slow down the process of surfactants that changes the barrier layer. Some of them also protect and have a caring component. This is what I mean by "masking": What else is going on through the overall "soap washing" process is not directly visible.
If I had your background and would also experience this in practice, maybe I would agree with you. I think it will add 5 years, provided I continue to deal with the topic, I might then agree with you more. At the moment it is rather, sounds conclusive and a hesitant yes is ok. For me, something like that and you were probably also at the beginning may have been set in such a way that you have to experience it yourself to say yes, true or false. But there is nothing to add to your statement. Sounds good. :-)

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